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Val wrote:

Bang, even aimed, has corrosion of the, other than correct and in advance famous.

With this agree and, too, in resentful.

Val wrote:

why reaction "turning" goes from above down

Ah I wrote pro mushroom with with a hat. As version of.

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Yes here is lies book Khelezova, no one no one nowhere nothing not overshadowing the. Read and pleased.
Where so much noise around? That he there such a wrote? That Gorbachev Eva is?))
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544629
32 pages with pictures.

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Towers were undone under its own weight. I errori of course, but somehow need to be an idiot to so to think. In sight same that the building turns into dust. The building made, there is video, where goes was rocked by land, through several second of the building flies down. Made unambiguously, further debate sense there is no, simply dumb Flud,, too, most that in 18 century (such as you) would were pow that communicate through air not realistically. Passed 200 years and appeared phones. Examples can lead hundreds of.
Especially derives its with those specialists, which are about education, I the physicist, I chemist. What, whose schoolgirl ,-? The who makes such things (snosy buildings), they you not would give such knowledge, ah can then, when any. You even not know these people and never their not will learn, who is worth for all of these.

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Val wrote:

If explosion "turned" steel in powder-like cast iron in buildings 1, 2 and 7, why the same fate not has near ??? buildings.

Perhaps because they not are trapped in zone of fragmentation has taken hold. Or were made not from have become. Perhaps because source, their cleavage divided a somewhat the thickness of the undercoat, that you ignored.
Val, here is such question: If in the building WTC-7 not he crashed plane, then why need was his casualties in the fifth ano the evening, and then in official quadrennial at all pro him not to mention?
Planting thermite experts assure, that in building WTC-7 were terrible and horrendous documents, which the plotters were need to was destroy. But this version of chickens on laughable, because for destruction documents there is and other ways.
Ask have random known, that happened September 11, in New York) they you in 90% cases will say, that fell two towers. They you this will say zaprogramirovanno, cliche. That in the brain have invested, then and they will recall. But this same will lie to the, camping on E. A lie to you.

And this the building why disassembled?
(Deutsche Bank Building)
http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1409701305/4d353bf0/6211027_m.jpg

Answers such:
WTC-7 (Salomon brothers building) was doomed, because his steel frame received powerful dose cosmic from first nuclear explosion. His need was would casualties in any case, because his steel received structural changes. (Not heat blow, and structural changes, on molecular level)

LIBOR Trust (Deutsche Bank Building), too, 74 year build and, too,, ironically, have him steel frame. The building gained a smaller dose, because was perched further. His technical state of were study, because his immediately not close. Then began to mop-up, Sunday? Many years and ended only in 2011.

Final decision about disassembly Deutsche Bank Building, was taken in 2004. But that surprisingly, if the US possesses technology demolition homes route undermining the, then why same his not demolished, and Sunday? 7 years? For me the answer the obvious: Because officially, simply not there is technology demolition steel buildings. Only disassembling of the.

Val wrote:

why reaction "turning" goes from above down? Remarque to of last parts of issue - if would "transformation into a" resisted from the bottom up, then in view colossal burden in district foundation cracked spine occurred would immediately the bottom, not before when a cap converge to base

Question equitable, but his need ask those who that)
Not turning, and changes structures molecules, not from above down, and in an instant.
I not know what experiment conduct, simply imagine. After, as under land experienced a nuclear explosion, experienced process, which in the minds ordinary people not behind. He such same unimaginable for us, as if would you 400 years ago showed would wild and an emerging Europeans, work slight electric flashlight. - guaranteeing misunderstanding, puzzling, shock, charges in sorcery over.
Experienced not explosion powder keg, experienced explosion, which launched radiation (alpha, vast array, beta, electromagnetic. And other on all calculated tables). The frequency this cosmic vehemently thus, that in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, --something specific number of steel floors. Steel, which proved in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, changed the structure and the tenacity. The tenacity proved sufficient for moreover, to the building remained stand. Further occurred wave of powerful bombings from vspomogayuschey charges, which dynamite was within. A tough, were instant and i.e. American) integral sector with loft floors, began cover down, not’no resistance. The entire steel, which proved in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, under of inquiry received structural molecular changes,, speaking more comprehensible words, has turned into a most “crisp. This rusting sawdust starters crumble in dust, after as its began to dissipate the conventional explosives. Dust it turned out so many, that she harvesting of the entire district, measuring in several centimeters.
No one can, as something differently explain, the emergence of such a huge number of dust and the disappearance of 400 thousands of have become.

Moreover, not release with accounts such a version of, that we nor has never saw that there happened, because all 100% videos collapse, appeared in own broadcasts after moderation, and means could be fully changed. I on 100% am confident, that all video with vrezayuschimisya by airplanes this forgery, the other option is removed absolutely. So why same not suggest, that video collapsing,, too, were made on computer? Most interesting, that video with by airplanes and video with kollapsami, coincide in the number of.

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Long suffer question pro samples dust: Someone bought these samples? Have studied composition? There is any materials on this topic? Did truth dust consisted of iron.

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Dmitry" wrote:

There's been not explosion powder keg, experienced explosion, which launched radiation (alpha, vast array, beta, electromagnetic. And other on all calculated tables). The frequency this cosmic vehemently thus, that in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, --something specific number of steel floors. Steel, which proved in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, changed the structure and the tenacity. The tenacity proved sufficient for moreover, to the building remained stand. Further occurred wave of powerful bombings from vspomogayuschey charges, which dynamite was within. A tough, were instant and i.e. American) integral sector with loft floors, began cover down, not’no resistance. The entire steel, which proved in zone of fragmentation has taken hold, under of inquiry received structural molecular changes,, speaking more comprehensible words, has turned into a most “crisp. This rusting sawdust starters crumble in dust, after as its began to dissipate the conventional explosives. Dust it turned out so many, that she harvesting of the entire district, measuring in several centimeters.
No one can, as something differently explain, the emergence of such a huge number of dust and the disappearance of 400 thousands of have become.

Plyatttt. Ah what same hell is that you write!
The term "energy assessment" you anything says? What work (in J.K.) need to to commit, to change structure 400 tys tons have become?
If she is traded "radiation with subculture frequency" (fasepalm. This that such at all, then what is capacity (kW) radiator and time his work? If radiation this outcome "explosion" (Google significance term ’, together fundamental differences gas-brisant-nuclear), then what is make energy explosion? Hint - COP such a system. Share of percent go in the form of alpha-beta-vast array from the most explosion. EMF? - share of from share of percent.
Certificate for COP weapon-radiation - striking relatively prolonged light effect zone air’gives, red-hot air.
On topic - explosion could be nuclear. Type 0.5kT tactical weapons stuffed me in well. Then need to seek recent exercises / of loss of / write-downs relatively new. Than mensche capacity - those mensche time life weapons in able "boegotov."

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любитель конспирологии wrote:

long suffer question pro samples dust: Someone bought these samples? Have studied composition? There is any materials on this topic? Did truth dust resided Czlowiek z zelaza.


Read study (ssyl long seek), so there virtually homogeneous dust, part of which this is droplets have become.’s a magnet.

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Dmitry" wrote:

If someone thinks, that these hundreds of thousands of tons dust originated from bricks, then beware, that all three reduced buildings were not reinforced concrete, and iron.
If someone thinks, that so much dust can naturally occur from it hits its target coins about and bling, then I you not and help, you already no one will help.


Here is with these your behaviour exiles’it is difficult debate. This indeed as unraveled heap powder. Strange, what indeed - far DeepBurner so much steel failed?. Prozhivu. 400 thousand Tons only s building weight. So there still tys.100 was equipment, finishing, laptops, huh, furniture, safes, doors, air conditioners, and still prozhivu how many just.

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A large number of photo the World Trade Center. http://public.fotki.com/kostic/world_trade_center/ location derzhitsya

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#p11540,Musicien wrote:

long suffer question pro samples dust. Did truth dust consisted of iron.

Very many dust was kept few years on is closest buildings, on Deutsche Bank. Have studied. Found steel, iron, concrete, human leftovers from the. Mikrony broken bones. Identified on DNA. Relatives several times close were burying.

Interesting version of pro Sadecki stage. When steel turned the melting and immediately in powder. In my this is called sublimation of erotic. But whatever powerful must be conditions? So can be the entire NY many.

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#p52692,eVa wrote:

MA – It many dust was kept few years on is closest buildings, on Deutsche Bank. Have studied. Found steel, iron, concrete, human leftovers from the. Mikrony broken bones. Identified on DNA. Relatives several times close were burying.

Simply information the motives for articles, the excerpts 90% or moreover more. Goal all this now this, even times emphasize, as terrible Bin Laden.

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#p990,Dmitry" wrote:

If someone thinks, that these hundreds of thousands of tons dust originated from bricks, then beware, that all three reduced buildings were not reinforced concrete, and iron.
If someone thinks, that so much dust can naturally occur from it hits its target coins about and bling, then I you not and help, you already no one will help.


For me personally version of Khalezova is the most credible, but here is in networks appeared video, ostensibly one for a radical American the blacksmith, which explains masses, that this precisely fuel aircraft poplavilo centers, he these video bokazyvaet, that warmly from combustion fuels could influence steel. The very video not enduring the no critics, but nevertheless it widely circulated across, or his send out on networks as if the virus AIDS,

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#p6706,Mmoris wrote:

:: Message from: TAC "::

Pro "strashnost" and "horror" radiation you can to tell inhabitants Hiroshima and Nagasaki who live and in managers and not whichn is exposed

Try find a japanese girl with from of nature smooth teeth) capacity bomb 21 kt and explosion was air


Homilies find the English woman with from of nature smooth teeth, and there only on the north Wales were precipitation from Chernobyl's clouds in 1986, ah and still 3 nuclear station, working on England

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#p52710,staysane71 wrote:

:: Сообщение от : Dmitry" ::

    Если кто-то думает, что эти сотни тысяч тонн пыли возникли от бетона, то знайте, что все три упавшие здания были не железобетонные, а ЖЕЛЕЗНЫЕ.
         Если кто-то думает, что столько пыли может образоваться от соударения железок об железки, то я вам не помогу, вам уже никто не поможет.

для меня лично версия Халезова является наиболее правдоподобной, но вот в сети появилось видео , якобы одного крутого американского кузнеца, который обьясняет массам , что это именно топливо самолетов поплавило центры, он этим видео боказывает, что тепло от горения топлива могло повлиять на сталь. Само видео не выдерживает никакой критики, но тем не менее оно разошлось, или его разошли по сети словно вирус спида,

Стальные балки ВТЦ испытывали вертикальное давление, а не горизонтальное. На приведенном видео мужчина гнет стальной прут не вдоль его длины, а поперек, да еще и использует огромный рычаг. Не мудрено, что это ему удается проделать мизинцем. Еще Архимед говорил: "Дайте мне точку опоры, и я переверну Землю".

Да, а где огромные стальные балки ВТЦ, горящее топливо? Почему их нет на видео? Где научные расчеты?

Это не доказательство, а вводящая в заблуждение аналогия, рассчитанная на неискушенного наукой обывателя.

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#p52710,staysane71 wrote:

для меня лично версия Халезова является наиболее правдоподобной, но вот в сети появилось видео , якобы одного крутого американского кузнеца, который обьясняет массам , что это именно топливо самолетов поплавило центры, он этим видео боказывает, что тепло от горения топлива могло повлиять на сталь. Само видео не выдерживает никакой критики, но тем не менее оно разошлось, или его разошли по сети словно вирус спида,

Обсолютно не одно и тоже. Где огонь и жар который расплавил балки? Куда делись балки нижних этажей? Почему все скрошилось в мелкие куски? Почему рухнуло 3-ье здание, там получается тоже было горючее от самолетов, откуда?

Кузнец заговаривает зубы.

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#p11540,Musicien wrote:

давно мучает вопрос про образцы пыли: кто-то брал образцы? изучали состав? есть какие-то материалы по этой теме? неужели правда пыль состояла из железа?..

Вот прекрасная научная работа по пыли ВТЦ, и содержит в себе ссылки на другие известные работы.
Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade  Center destruction
Правда на английском.
Вот пара выдержек с моим переводом:

"A WTC dust sample shows a “mean of composition” of “Fe spheres” of 5.87%,which is very high compared with “Fe spheres” found in ordinary building dust of only 0.04%"

Содержание "сфер железа" в образце пыли от ВТЦ -5.87%, что очень высоко по сравнению с обычной пылью, в которой содержание железа около 0.04%. То есть примерно в 150 раз выше.

The temperatures required for the observed spherule formation and evaporation of materials observed in the WTC dust (table 1) are significantly higher than temperatures reachable by the burning of jet fuel and office materials in the WTC buildings (table 2). The temperatures required to melt iron (1,538 °C) and molybdenum (2,623 °C), and to vaporize lead (1,740 °C) and aluminosilicates (~2,760°C), are completely out of reach of the fires in the WTC buildings (maximum 1,100 °C).

Температуры, требующиеся для формирования обнаруженных в пыли ВТЦ сфероидов и для испарения соответствующих материалов, значительно превышают температуры достигаемые при горении авиационного топлива и офисных материалов. Температуры требующиеся для плавления железа (1538), молибдена (2623) и для испарения свинца (1740) и алюмосиликатов (2760) абсолютно недостижимы пожару в ВТЦ (максимум 1100 градусов цельсия).
Реальные же температуры пожара в зданиях не превышают 650 градусов, в основном из-за недостатка кислорода.

Last edited by Бузук (Sep 3 2016 01:30:30)

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­­https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXsDwKYz1bA
ссылка на подборку фото возле башни и внутри после взрыва
Интересно , на 9:31 фото - здание упало - а ШАР остался ???
Это наверное говорит о том что к земле уже летела пыль а не металл ?

Last edited by Lober (Sep 23 2016 03:43:57)

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Pictures - Inside the Twin Towers and at Ground Zero on 9/11

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