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#p64014,Leshiy wrote:

By the way, have us in country there is no nor one monument shtrafnikam!

Yes about than you, a respected? Food commodities still not traded. Yes and Context whether questioning monuments shtrafnikam? Them this already need not, and glee the stimulus on contentious events nor to what. After all among penalty box were, too, different people. And the key word in the preceding proposal "people." So that canvassed are worth monuments the symbols.

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Another "An Inconvenient The story."
Their Nowhere so not lie, as on war history Napoleonova invasions by still times confirmed this old truth: No other tragedy not was so mifologizirovana, priukrashena, redrafted its ahead, as Patriotic war 1812 year. Can be whether at all calling its Patriotic? Was whether attack Bonaparte backstabbing Bro , as tried to prove our propaganda? Leader was coming whether he win and subjugate the Russia and why his so often would read as liberator? There is whether founding considered Of The Moskva battle not the that victory, but although would brow and why in defense on, fortified positions we lost much more people, than attackers the French, although, on all laws war, should be contrary? Who on fact Wonders Moscow and is worth whether to believe believing the about French the robberies , riots of and atrocities ? Against whom was Christianized you dumbass popular war and whom belong laurels best guerrillas Europe? Truth whether, that the Russian army broke the back of of the talks, and on whose impulse he has from mortal trap on over Berezina, zatyanuv war still on and a half long and bloody year? Responding on the most uncomfortable , taboo and scandalous questions, this eventually book convincingly proves: Increasingly Speedwagon NOT THAT is what!
Content.

, Chapter 1 Myth about how, that in 1812 year fought only in Russia
The head of the 2 on, associated with preparation to war
Wanted to whether Napoleon win Russia
About verolomnom attack Napoleon on Russia
Was whether Russia is ready to war
Strongly whether the French army grant against Russian on ????????
The head of the 3 Myth about outset war
Was whether Barclay in the early war commander-in-chief
About how troops Napoleon got fast-tracked doesn the Nemunas
About nether Swords Bagration Barclay de Tolly
Participated whether sons General Raevsky, Nikolay in combat under Battle of saltanovka
Who adopted decision now, on Rudnya
Why Napoleon not surrounded Russians under freight
Wanted to whether Napoleon to stay properly establish themselves in Smolensk the
As emperor Alexander appointed commander-in-chief Kutusov
drooling under arrival Kutusov in army
The head of the 4 on about Battle of the Moskowa battle
Excellent stance have sela Borodino
About ???????? two armies before Borodinskim battle
Who won in Battle of the Moskowa battle
ingenious actions Kutusov
Losses in Battle of the Moskowa battle
About injury of of the Bagration
The head of the 5 on, associated with dump Moscow
Wanted to whether Kutuzov give a new battle of the talks under Moscow
Role Kutusov in military Council in council
Who Wonders Moscow
About houses instead in Moscow Russians sick and Wounded
The head of the 6 Myth about how, that with Napoleon fought only army Barclay's de Tolly and Bagration
The head of the 7 on about so-called dubine popular war
Small war, guerrilla war, popular war
Who was the first Russian partisan hat
Who of an on celebrated portrait of Denis Davydov
Peasants-guerrillas
Peasant unrest in 1812 year and popular militia
About patriotism Russian the nobility and merchant class
The head of the 8 on about following Kutusov
About the strange activity Kutusov
Was whether is to blame Admiral Chichagov in failure operations on River over Berezina
Losses Russian and against Napoleonic armies in the war 1812 year
About dozens thousands of Russians of captured

Exactly, itself book.
http://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.ph … e_tak.html

Last edited by Leshiy (Apr 14 2016 19:21:35)

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#p64014,Leshiy wrote:

Wu my friend was grandfather, before the war was ordinary a purse snatcher.

Well a worthy and perfectly reputable all profession

#p64017,Leshiy wrote:

in the early war people not particularly wanted to to fight for this power!

"People" not particularly wants to fight, ironically. For any power.

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Napoleon here still not was gripping.
Not was no invasions by = nor roads normal then not was, nor normal financing for such a project.
If would Napoleon ibn Buanopartiy was able would his target half a mil... - zoldatenov from of Warsaw until Moscow and back on our roads, then his need to was immediately chief executive announces Fund immediately to do.

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#p64017,Leshiy wrote:

At fact, in the early war people not particularly wanted to to fight for this power! Nor in one war such a not was, to so many Russian army gave up in capturing! Whole not been solved in Russian swallowed slightly whether not armies! "Fortress" not want to fight for their shackles of these.
The entire 42 year past in podavleniyakh popular uprisings, on type Lokotskoy republics.
Essentially this it a development Civil war, posted write on 20 years!


People, i.e. people, to fight at all not like and not want. Go to war and take power those, whom Gumilev enough aptly dubbed "passionariyami."
All, that you here're going to post, enough interestingly, as concrete historical facts. But conclusions - what?
Here is imagine: Communists beat with the help Hitler. Russia under a protectorate Germany, in which regime over time inevitably traded would.
Germans - loyal and allow we were sorry organize their republics.
In one a-rockin 'Socialist-Revolutionary Party, in the other - Russian Orthodox Old Believers, in the third - category: Monarchism, have Cossacks - its grains theme, nationalists require own autonomies.

Ah, and that further? If slightly is cooling "the third reich" in ties with itself from power "passionariev"? What is further fate Russia, fragmented brand on "specific principality"?

Very easily retroactively fix upon alone and erect in heroes other, in force LIChNYKh (and they always personal) loves and antipatiy. And you am confident, that less people died would in mezhduusobitsakh, when all these "republics" began to would to prove to each other its truth? After all this inevitably would happened, coming from basic principles ANY power. Yes and "people" became would seek, where and as "better", googly eyes on neighbors. Grew would new "passionarii", which not suits the, that there is, and want something another.

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#p64099, wrote:

"the, i.e. people, to fight at all not like and not want. Go to war and take power those, whom Gumilev enough aptly dubbed "passionariyami."

Then: Go to war people, and take power passionarii. Force to fight not passionariya much easier, than passionariya. Passionariy knows what him need and what price he for this ready pay. T. E. Passionarii go to war people (cannon fodder flesh).

#p64099, wrote:

Nu, and that further? If slightly is cooling "the third reich" in ties with itself from power "passionariev"? What is further fate Russia, fragmented brand on "specific principality"?

And nothing would not was. Under certain conditions,, deaf itself the need that the whom the to prove to. But this only under awoke development events. As one of possible options

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#p64103, wrote:

Then why oh why: Go to war people, and take power passionarii. Force to fight not passionariya much easier, than passionariya. Passionariy knows what him need and what price he for this ready pay. T. E. Passionarii go to war people (cannon fodder flesh).

And nothing would not was. Under certain conditions,, deaf itself the need that the whom the to prove to. But this only under awoke development events. As one of possible options


With the first ?????? agree. Of course, they put broad masses, because their little. Put poster of, propaganda, direct and method tricking.

Else - indeed "the subjunctive inclination of", which in history not there is. But something me does, that my version of - more credible, knowing nature of people and "misrepresentation."
But on your glance - under any conditions is possible lasting civilian the world?

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#p64104, wrote:

A on your glance - under any conditions is possible lasting civilian the world?

When share nothing to acquire. Every Hypnotizes their affair. All just lack. Looks too idealizirovano? There is such. But after all still not so long, by historical standards, the norm it was thought kill sebepodobnogo neighbor from-for, for example, source drinking water or from-for more "rodosposobnoy" females.

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#p64121, wrote:

When share nothing to acquire. Every Hypnotizes their affair. All just lack. Looks too idealizirovano? There is such. But after all still not so long, by historical standards, the norm it was thought kill sebepodobnogo neighbor from-for, for example, source drinking water or from-for more "rodosposobnoy" females.


Is logical, but, indeed, several is utopian. After all in poslestalinskom the USSR as times this and soblyudalos, in a whole. Wasn us was then, that share?
However, one lacked sausages are made or toilet paper, other - fashionable clothing, the third - machines, the fourth - freedom, in including and freedom of origin abroad. Someone could not themselves fully realize in science or inventing products, someone not provided study real history or write books and music such a, what they wanted. Here is and broke a the, that have now.

Like, keep the goods and freedom became more, and discontent would still there is, in primarily because, that part of people to this life at all adjust not can, not can earn so much, to on all been lacking, feels from-for this humiliated. And nowhere from this not avoid. And in more well-off countries - the same.

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#p64132, wrote:

And in more well-off countries - the same.

Far not, too, most. I on work often go in Poland with 2004. On my the eyes of, can be said, was happening development from post-Soviet countries in developed European. Very markedly has changed mentality Poles for this time. Them realistically becomes all less and less what share. Even surprises sometimes, as this all just lack (in sense - space for business, creativity, dropping out and camping on P.)

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#p64135, wrote:

Far away not, too, most. I on work often go in Poland with 2004. On my the eyes of, can be said, was happening development from post-Soviet countries in developed European. Very markedly has changed mentality Poles for this time. Them realistically becomes all less and less what share. Even surprises sometimes, as this all just lack (in sense - space for business, creativity, dropping out and camping on P.)


Yes I - only "for". Never no one not was jealous of, - nor people, nor other states. Yes there and during "countries popular democracy" not so perishing and that sucks was (for of the time, of course). Simply me as something it beggars belief, that, dissolving our country on tens of "polsh", we get such same effect. Can, I and not rights, on practice after all this not happened until.

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#p64041, wrote:

Wikipedia for vikipedikov. Me taschemto't care, believes me you or not. This me directly me straight from first heard, so for good reason you here so tightens up., a respected.


Then tense up and let-arguments against on all rules. To tell as it was with words ancestors - this one thing, insist on counter official data - quite another. In the first case you speak about how, that heard and all readers of it legitimate you not to believe, in the second - that studied and're arguing although would indirect data, and then already opponent should will prove (not be confused with say) s when you're wrong.

#p63946, wrote:

Id say: First information pro "some who" like would to know, desirable not from "secrets embodied Anna Chapman" or such sources.


Some who, this - aren't human.
Above, than actively Twittering, forum esteem, then not regulation disgrace ourselves "secrets Anna Chapman."

#p64041, wrote:

. You think, that in the time all was in accordance with ukazami? Ah so again poshartes in wikipedia or still on any resources.


In this case out proposal socialist go and find righteousness tsitiruemogo. Soizvol lead docks with "still any resources" himself, times perishing vikipedikom be not like it or.

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little gremlins around, very I hasten, so will kratok- "The more empire, those below the price human life!" Other on China! Us is a plant on this "needle" - already as several centuries. Us with childhood stigmatized soba, pro the greatest country in world. Only, in this the most rich country, lives the most few people. Now even and morally.
And this far Poland, than material wealth.
vulnerability, not pay any attention, this such recognition in love to us) Skyfall-Different until not is obtained)

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#p64080,Leshiy wrote:

location one "An Inconvenient The story"

On fantasies traditional historians impose fantasies traditional whistleblowers and it's a. Then alternativschiki place increasingly and all in stupor.
And Major tank troops asking simple question, as can be conduct on prosyolochnomu Kingsroad rate hike he had signaled 700tysyach with often supply and other possessions.
Chet you Alexey're tipping in simply in negative around the Russias state-, began with the USSR now're getting to deep enough. You us like it or open eyes, that increasingly lime tree handing her another lime? Or thinking, that forumchane believe history from textbooks?

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#p64152, wrote:

Chet you Alexey're tipping in simply in negative around the Russias state-, began with the USSR now're getting to deep enough. You us like it or open eyes, that increasingly lime tree handing her another lime? Or thinking, that forumchane believe history from textbooks?

Not know why Alexey, ah let will so). Rather not on Russias state-, and on imperial! I pro the contestant "Russia," which no relations truly to not has! Later answer, and the cube calls the.

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#p64143, wrote:

Oe-who, this - aren't human.
Above, than actively Twittering, forum esteem, then not regulation disgrace ourselves "secrets Anna Chapman."

I read on Forum only that me are interested in. So same any perepost or proof from "these sources" an open the internet not on many avtoritetnee "secrets embodied Anna Chapman", some that here dwells in abstinence is from such sources.

#p64143, wrote:

In this case out proposal socialist go and find righteousness tsitiruemogo. Soizvol lead docks with "still any resources" himself, times perishing vikipedikom be not like it or.

I not believe his opponent. His goal clearer clear - protrollit me through my relatives and to withdraw on emotions. For what? There is options.
You, perfectly reputable, too were relying on on "omnipotence" the internet (closing: Open his parts of). As you itself represent exile on an accurate Internet document for affirming moreover confirming stories with my an estranged cousin, dead TO education the most Internet?

#p64143, wrote:

insist on counter official data - quite another.

And than, on your, here mostly engage in, except as "insist on counter official data?" Who didthese official data, wasn not those same the most "monarch"? At least, I accurately am confident (for themselves), that neither I nor my cousin grandfather not belong to "'s creatures." To methis enough, to prove to someone that the, I am not expected.

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#p64099, wrote:

MA It easily retroactively fix upon alone and erect in heroes other, in force LIChNYKh (and they always personal) loves and antipatiy. And you am confident, that less people died would in mezhduusobitsakh, when all these "republics" began to would to prove to each other its truth? After all this inevitably would happened, coming from basic principles ANY power. Yes and "people" became would seek, where and as "better", googly eyes on neighbors. Grew would new "passionarii", which not suits the, that there is, and want something another.

Little gremlins around, of course, I I sympathize with more with the White Movement. This pitfalls Oktiabrsk coup. Me modicum understandable, for that these people fought! And here is for that fought other, me not understandable! This I pro performers. For yoke of and shackles of these?
Now, that pitfalls power: "There is only one VLAST - this VLAST TVORTsA!" On earth she represented in the form of wisdom senior generations and expressed sense of love to everything zhivomu and around the universe. More I not know no a real power. Increasingly else this simply "dentures", when lacks these two basic components. All attempts create on different principle lead to failure and pretty dicey national tragedy or ". Us now ganged emptied this. Not know as you, but I themselves feel somehow morally-moral concerns impotent)
When in city of lived, utterly about this not was conceived. Parazitiroval as many, Commonwealth. From life increasingly. Now'm on increasingly differently!

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#p64197,Leshiy wrote:

little gremlins around, of course, I I sympathize with more with the White Movement. This pitfalls Oktiabrsk coup. Me modicum understandable, for that these people fought! And here is for that fought other, me not understandable! This I pro performers. For yoke of and shackles of these?
Now, that pitfalls power: "There is only one VLAST - this VLAST TVORTsA!" On earth she represented in the form of wisdom senior generations and expressed sense of love to everything zhivomu and around the universe. More I not know no a real power. Increasingly else this simply "dentures", when lacks these two basic components. All attempts create on different principle lead to failure and pretty dicey national tragedy or ". Us now ganged emptied this. Not know as you, but I themselves feel somehow morally-moral concerns impotent)
When in city of lived, utterly about this not was conceived. Parazitiroval as many, Commonwealth. From life increasingly. Now'm on increasingly differently!


"Other" fought for freedom, as this nor strange sounds in light of further events, simply their, as always, betrayed. Did you seriously removal of, that the Bolsheviks would be able defeat without the support enough big parts of people? The peasantry, in primarily.

That concerns loves, I have they on life were only to separate individuals require, outside dependence from their political better targeted. I very well understand, for example, Maximilian 16 new, which tried to to rescue white from red and contrary. To rescue those who've been busted on his path and in whom he saw people.

"Wisdom senior generations", excuse, for me the notion of quite an abstract. Nerazvivshiysya morally man and to old age wise and good not becomes.
From personal experience, - worked in hospital few years, and, mostly, with old men. Nothing they not wiser and not better young in most part. Such same myth, as and "child innocence." Trust me, I - not a cynic and very prize in humans and wisdom, and kindness, and love in all its manifestations. Only with these qualities ostentatious're, than with we didn, unfortunately.

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vulnerability,

all your attempts to withdraw me on emotions through Prophet my cousin grandfather - mostly by trolls.


Ah the scare stories pro zhydo-Bolshevik Party izvergof, still can be was tolerate.
But you Jora and your brethren on reintroduce reason and honor caeacee in subject which me not indifferent.
And to suffer a a blizzard pro "one weapons on three figures", overcrowded special corpses and for other gebbelsovsko-rezunovskuyu muynyu,
Which obrydla already, ured-word!
Only lazy historian not I kicked him your brother, ranging from Mukhina, Isaeva and to somehow any Goblinom.
Loath and I, too, 'll do my you Face in shit, perishing I'm sorry, bro.

In capturing he fell already in environment, so that there without options.

Remarkable. You Jora buck, that on war, especially the / 41-45 / entourage and then subsequent destruction was the main tactic waging
Combat action. And if would subdivisions immediately zdavalis in capturing in perfectly recyclable at or polukotlakh the war ended would through 4 month.
Exactly so and planned Hitler. He, too, as you Jora and your friends believed, that people "for this power" not will
Fight, but proschitalsya!
Frontier parts of NKVD fight in the first clock-days war in perfectly recyclable at and were dying, cowards silhouette armored drapali, rule of with weapons relics it to enemy
Those who things are smarter than'd blow itself limbs, and the most scoring wise-ass came to its and obyavlyali themselves Shpienami.
And were sleep in camp on 5 years.
Are reading have Mukhina. Dezertiry and Spies
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/beam_truth/56617712/123524/123524_900.jpg
Here is this homo the creature / brutes /.
http://battlefront.ru/foto/files/20100531191818.jpg
And so costing enormous in environment real People.
To CHOL what you want still review.

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2 + 2 =2, so does psyche ideal human - cowardly fear wins the mind. Not all capable understand and recognize the, that you write, if this concerns personally their.
Yes and ancestors hardly truth shared. Ah who SERVICES truth will reveal their children, grandchildren? Here is and are has heroically descendants on already information fields battles mischievous cause honor ALLOWED TO VIEW THIS WEBSITE, and there can and assert nothing to acquire.

Thousands of used to Jack in capturing. But here is something in the real life for entire life not fierce nor one confirming stories with, that in capturing - had crumbled himself, and the and defection. This all pro any something there. Already not existing, which in stories by and chronicles of military time, which not lived with us and not; raised us. And all returned, survived - priori heroes because, that power our was such a, krasnoperaya, which for capturing without dressing in camps, and means - not is to blame. So of course, whom badmouth descendants will? :glasses:

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