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Lugansk. A fake the crash Ilyushin Il-76

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Dmitry" wrote:

Luganskie grasslands type "field meadow" not elektrofitsirovany and not implanted.
Field not can pose interest for terrorists, so as there have to duck.

Yes, yes, I, too, all their map, from the until seats the fall of the distance relatively not large, and lights and homes burned his also, as and the crickets with sun, video a catfish as well
That concerns second video Tikhonya Web camera

If conduct line from it to community the fall of the plane as would dissimilar, distance from cameras until airport about 12 km. Again, the an outbreak from explosion or of reverting plane in sight, but:
1) that prevents what the to blow up and burn down tires somewhere between (for pictures of the), the more curiously there reforestation project and fields on this lines abound
2) camera captures outbreaks for 12-13 seconds, and then light from ceasefire deaf, camping on E. Is obtained, that plane latter hit a, he falls without any planning, hits a bump goes about land and samounichtozhaetsya (this explains the disappearance of 3 / 4 parts of plane). Fire not was, so as pilots typically recognized bounce the remaining fuel in large pieces under falling
3) work detonated in the air, on land fell only its fragments in the form of stabilizer with Kiel, couple of engines, parts of consoles, slightly fuselage, else increasingly strides end up consumed in the air or gotten lost in steppe the grass.

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exile fun planted the Ukrainian comrades
http://ubop.com.ua/stati/pervym-delom-p … lety1.html
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Modicum something, modicum have someone brains are moving :insane:

Truth Alexander Victor Vorontsov "saw" 16 man dead under Volnovakha (instead three corpses in field) and not remembers that mourning on him the blame denounced, but this as would already small beer..

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1403015583/6123df80/5454317.jpg
been - GIGANT

And themselves terrorists any elusive! After all Minister Defense Ukraine Koval declared, that they "disappeared", so their and not was detained! Need to same, and then have returned and guys. These on , fotkayas have the wreckage of the? And these "fotochki" rush, gulyayutpo alive magazines, circulation was, tvitteram, feysbukam, but their not have central Ukrainian media!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

been- a giant plane
Maximum vzlyotnyy weight 217 tons
http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1402764603/65654e23/5427653.png

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo8II7YiIX0

Arthur Matveev ringing from Biryulyovo, and a leading assures the us that have Arthur in field awesome works phone.
No AEROPORTA NAM THAT is what And NOT have shown :)
Such a spouted, modicum wait modicum... .hit.
It turns out, noble Ukrainian Guard, like to have a go all outsiders militias, pilfered all corpses, whisked away by gun and the BMP for recovery :cool:
. Mother birth.
Why the BMP and gun transport plane, when they can to come their move from Kharkova or from army units Luhansk area?
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Have plane are several soldiers "militias" on tour, and the National Guard already exhausted.
Need to to believe, that replacing alone on other, occurred through brutal battle. Need to to believe, that a firefighter in this combat to do was nothing to acquire. So who same put out samalyot and then stole all corpses for shortest possible time?

be shitting herself MRAZ software COMPLETE PROGRAMME

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Ah here is and in the news.
Militias declared, that not found on place collapse Ilyushin Il-76 fragments that tel

Theme: Crisis on the southeast Ukraine
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Lugansk, 17 Jun RIA News. On place collapse downed under knowledge plane IL-76 not detected fragments that tel paratroopers, told the head of the self-proclaimed Luhansk popular republics Valery Bolotov in Tuesday.

RIA News

In Saturday militias in Luhansk brought down naval transport jet Ilyushin Il-76, siloviki declared about demise 49 Ukrainian troops. Later power of Lugansk People's Republic have expressed doubt, that those were on board. Chief press services self-proclaimed Luhansk popular republics Vladimir Inogorodskiy declared, that information about large numbers dead diffusing Kiev power with goal to write off so-called neboevye losses.

At this moment can state that our those investigators not detected nor one fragment tel , said Bolotov journalists in Tuesday in Luhansk. Columns racing up, on his words of,, too, not was.

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constant wrote:

Nu here is and in the news.
Militias declared, that not found on place collapse Ilyushin Il-76 fragments that tel

Scum has already given team correct implementation in bringing up bother)

Increasingly flocking on Kyiv.
Of Ministry of Defence of of Kyiv announced already in 5 morning, as there increasingly have them was and from no gun brought down Ilyushin Il.
Opolchenskie wystawienniczym, too, many what already they've said some and all media specified absurd chronology. :disappointed:
I at all not understand, as they will two, already bloggers began to take an interest in nestykovkami.)
In the process zaglazhivaniya installation with Ilom, they will try perhaps maximally whip all with bribery a lie to you, to have people faded bear take an interest in from-for complexity and large number lies.

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There in together that stuff koroch.
http://www.dni.ru/incidents/2014/6/15/272593.html
Have come up with "video showing", "of captured paratroopers". "Ione missiles.", "analysis" some.

In, our man of the Luhansk consider, that jet Air Force Ukraine Ilyushin Il-76 with military on board could be shot down Ukrainian siloviki: On this, in particular, points analysis videotapes overthrew the and the purported place of start-up of missiles. "If watch on terrain of and on available video showing, then in sight, that ione missiles searched with territory airport on aim course", said 15 June the interlocutor RIA News. "If would ione produced militias, then rocket must was would go dogonnym course", quotes representative militias agency.

"So as jet was shot down in immediate neighborhood from airport, then clear, that ione it was all done with his territory. Airport is engaged in a the soviet troops, and militias there be not can ", said representative militias. He suggested, that cause of this act have become complex relations between Lvovskimi and dnepropetrovskimi flown in on territory airport, which have bypassed unlawful. "On podletavshem board were dnepropetrovskie paratroops out there. Perhaps, Lviv soldiers decided not allow, to to their dnepropetrovskim colleagues arrived strengthened ", said the interlocutor agencies.

On his words of, this information confirmed surrendered to us in capturing trooper takes from home town of Dnipropetrovsk. On the eve reported, that conflict with viewing weapons occurred between two groups Thomas in airport Luhansk Ukrainian paratroopers Lviv and our group, after what part of troops had to escape place intercourse services


What there is but come as zagibayut:
Minutemen consider, that plane shot down with military on board
Militias consider, that military they not discovered

Need something one thing, and they that make? :canthearyou:

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If conduct line from it to community the fall of the plane as would dissimilar, distance from cameras until airport about 12 km. Again, the an outbreak from explosion or of reverting plane in sight, but:
1) that prevents what the to blow up and burn down Screeching somewhere between (for pictures of the), the more curiously there reforestation project and fields on this lines abound
2) camera captures outbreaks for 12-13 seconds, and then light from ceasefire deaf, camping on E. Is obtained, that plane latter hit a, he falls without any planning, hits a bump goes about land and samounichtozhaetsya (this explains the disappearance of 3 / 4 parts of plane). Fire not was, so as pilots typically recognized bounce the remaining fuel in large pieces under falling
3) work detonated in the air, on land fell only its fragments in the form of stabilizer with Kiel, couple of engines, parts of consoles, slightly fuselage, else increasingly strides end up consumed in the air or gotten lost in steppe the grass.


There is true, this video not can be about falling silt. Have such a plane, should be many many tons fuels.
Weight empty plane 90 tons
Weight fuels can be 100 tons
Maximum weight plane 217 tons.
Even if in large pieces remained 10 tons, then conflagration could not fizzle as on this video. This physically impossible, camera could not such miss.
As same camera at all could "see" tiny missile and "not see" conflagration many tons kerosene?
Recall, that neither gasoline, nor kerosene not surges by themselves, surges their couples, after as come into reaction with oxygen, this process ranks specific time.
Video a catfish as well, or ad hoc setting with bursting of the.
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Prejudice idiot at all could obtain that kind in head to send 40 people in Lugansk, thus mind-blowingly expensive (for Ukraine) way, if these 40 man quietly could reach until caregiver seats on bus ride or get marshbroskom? Their dispatched there virtually, only only in an information field, This Is It (explanation.

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Dmitry" wrote:

Which idiot at all could in head to send 40 people in Lugansk,
Thus mind-blowingly expensive (for Ukraine) way?

So there is same our Ukraine. He and sponsors. Can even its own Ilyushin Il-76 provided for this events.
And if seriously, then utterly obviously, that all of this a lie a lie to you haunts. And very pity guys soldiers, which let's roll defend mother homeland, they depopulate their on the sly, where witnesses, where simply in the form of "laying a" and send back to its close, that would all seemed and mereschilas war with militants. And under rally scum makes affairs their black

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Dmitry" wrote:

What that have you on photo, this large Seoul engine FS-535E4, touted on modern modification IL-76 and on other model IL-96 and TU-204.
With 74 year on IL-76 stavilsya Rybinsky D-30KU, but the difference of course same not is so wide, as between D-30KU and the fiction that us have shown in become possible meadows.
Rybinsky engine less in diameter, long, soft or weak and prozhorlivee. Under knowledge, Netimer all, specifically were the one that dented, burned down, brought and triggered the back part of engine D-30 from any of a frat Ilyushin Il-62.

History with Luganskim Ilyushin Il-76 the most vividly vertical though, with immediately points finger at on all the mass media and on all Verkhovny Verkhovna, of Ministry of Defence of, militias-theater kids and camping on Afghan. On the idea of, people must see the light overnight, and this increasingly raze not happening.

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1403061291/f605fc00/5458593.jpg

DIvoire 30 CU
This little that changes.
Luganskim "rekonstruktoram", and together all editors media need to would in mortar such that whether Malesherbes.
But of Ministry of Defence of something why sbitie IL-76 acknowledged?
It is difficult surprise anyone than something in this easily described, but here realistically hit surprised, that you stupid team any civil tupenya generals "recognize and send statement in media" government as their entire status and common sense. Madness what something.
At all interestingly, as they further something with this Ilom vyrulivat will?

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Generally interestingly, as they further something with this Ilom vyrulivat will?

And will whether vyrulivat?
??? ?? ? ? already incident with a gas main lines Urengoi-Pomary-Uzhgorod

Need you gotta egg the crowd large the flood of senseless information, to fabricate other "thorny" events and people automatically will be switched with Ilyushin Il-76 on another. As with near Odessa or entered the on Institutskoy.
People not has time dicker over flows dezy, and those who increasingly same continues to obglazhivat not go in the right direction, and are fighting tilting at mills arranged.

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Speak with adults, which not sit in 120, simply look the telly, reverse that the in their the minds not realistically, verified, like judicial bureaus and then find like on themselves interlocutor and haters.

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Alex wrote:

'm here with adults, which not sit in 120, simply look the telly, reverse that the in their the minds not realistically, verified, like judicial bureaus and then find like on themselves interlocutor and haters.

Futile with them communicate and that either to prove to. Most those, with whom I spoke, refused outright refuse to recognize logic and facts. As only you prolong their in impasse, then you immediately "a fascist" and "banderovets." :canthearyou:

On personal experience say.

Last edited by Nikita (Jun 19 2014 00:49:43)

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A if seriously, then utterly obviously, that all of this the excerpts a lie to you haunts. And very pity guys soldiers, which let's roll defend mother homeland.

No one no one nowhere not'm paddling out. We have no nor single videopodtverzhdeniya moreover, that Ukrainian army shoots, reputation with falls from retaliatory ceasefire or receives injured in battles.
No one not fighting, of a bunch of armed Muslim volunteers be satisfied with installation, each other not concern, so as have single owner.

Media mint here is such broadcasts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMCbYs1kkQ
They ostensibly themselves sit in trenches there one could under shelling, simply lie the text and not give nor single videopodtverzhdeniya.
Millions of viewers must on faith to accept lies this shit named L! FENEWS
- Alexey hello there, tell us please, where specifically you now one, and the I blind its procedure, not see that have you written word "Lugansk".
- This is the real war, us with operator Stepanovich Melnikov this shocked uh, on Different not do you say, this is the real war uh without curiously quotes, and without curiously whatever the (wiser litso), and uh aA uh any something even other variations (wiser litso), the real war with viewing bears a aviation, bears a artillery, difficult mortar battle,.
Exactly In 4 AM, FAShIZTY crossed RlVER And NAPALI ON Republic, check In 4 AM.
Wasn YOU ME NOT believes? Me, CANCELLED how can In trenches there one could And continually was photographing ON camera bloody FlGHTS FORM?

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"asked not be information, and they not weathered and distributed
http://www.segodnia.ru/news/141437

Pod knowledge assassinated American general with guards
18.06.2014 - 22 :0 1
On one of versions of, in naval transport Ilyushin Il-76, who was shot down 14 June under you access on landing in airport Luhansk were, except Ukrainian military, senior officers NATO and their protection.

As soobshili "The arguments weeks", after preliminary exploring seats the fall of the plane were discovered special silicate case studie, in which were identify documents foreign military, and also other paper, which allowed determine their role in conducting sting operation on the southeast Ukraine.

According to top-level representative movement resistance, chaired delegation American officer, unwieldiness in office Brigadier General."

Moreover, in IL-76 were officials from headquarters NATO in Brussels and their protection numbers 15-17 people.

According to militias, goal this visit was aid Ukraines headquarters' company commander officers in conducting active the final phase operations. As noted representative resistance, "all documents turned over to Russian forces. Us were asked not be specific information ".


Bruce Willis stood in the sidelines and nervously was a screwup cigarette, honest man :D

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Dmitry" wrote:

Nobody no one nowhere not'm paddling out. We have no nor single videopodtverzhdeniya moreover, that Ukrainian army shoots, reputation with falls from retaliatory ceasefire or receives injured in battles.

I had in mind, that guys let's roll "ostensibly" defend homeland, after all they in this believe, after all them so said. And here is back some guys arrive already perish with gunshot wounds. And funeral real. And relatives, close or simply looky-loos, seeing all this, not want deal - who on fact murderer. Who these singers are, soloists and reenactors, they even and close such versions of not know. Such versions of on zombo TV not say, only about persistent challenge 10 time battles-the firefight over with use of super secret, and sometimes even if unpermitted weapons, in strategically important facilitiesinstallations, such as rural-urban divide Semenivka (Chernihiv Oblast) and the like. Over heads fly airplanes IL-76 and their . After all now the most chief authority - this zomboTV and Internet - where people harks back information from pages together Tymchukov, Avakovykh, Girkinykh, Gubavarevykh and eaea with them, they sit same in trenches there one could, them best. And soldiers on little nothing cannot be to speak. Home not're being released, will visit tell increasingly as there is, going to chomp plans scum. The only, that many say, not believe the, that show on TV.
Is faring blown ATL "the numeral the" war, but with real quite pricey witnesses or simply necessary for them "dead props" received (mainly ways.

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How raspoznayotsya fotofalshivka?

http://wesservic.livejournal.com/2124093.html

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1403204602/77233086/5476113_m.jpg

1) At photo, which yet another scums placement in as a "evidence", click RlGHT button of MYShKI.
2) and we're choosing point menu "Find this image of the in Google"
3) We're watching it on lists, or otfiltrovyvaem on anniversaries, or on the biggest size.
Search for a picture of an more early or greater, ourselves, that she already someone threw in the Internet before events, which us ontological.

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1403206010/19913d8c/5476310_m.jpg

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Which board brought down?

Wikipedia gave Number aboard 76777

Page plane here http://russianplanes.net/sern/0083482490

There is even photograph aboard with so number http://russianplanes.net/id66352 delivered on) in Belgium.

Far it increasingly iron could zadevatsya on Ukrainian) lawn in 2-'s kilometers from honorable airport? http://russianplanes.net/id56005

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Wikipediagives vzaimoisklyuchayuschuyu information on "were-could not be paratroops out there."
For more about this write us braved, ah his type the fuck from sin on-further, instead prevent hodgepodge of pro some battle. Write that Ukrainian military until catastrophe fought in open become possible meadows between themselves. As they could there between themselves to fight, if of Lugansk People's Republic the entire under control militias of Lugansk People's Republic, which quietly trek with automatic weapons on camps together with photographers?

In as a speshnogo of mending wild joints, virtual lips Zhanna Bolotova, scum is launching version of, that in fragments corpses not found. This version of assumes, that plane likely was the walkie-talkie)

On dead Wikipedia gave filatovskie, not on last name thing, and on areas.
Wikipedia gives exile not on original source, but on hope is. Good fellows khule.). Is called "clearing up traces on vikipediynomu"
http://ru.tsn.ua/ukrayina/v-sbitom-terr … 71471.html

http://rusvesna.su/news/1402745953
On the morning 14 th June, zamestitelsh Kolomoyshi feysbuknul provincial lists dead

"Of 49 man dead: 9 - members (airlines) from Zaporozhye area. Two her paratrooper from of Donetsk, on one: From Kherson, of Odessa, Kharkov, Lugansk, Kirovohrad. The rest 32 human from our area: Dnepr river - 10 man, E?eaie Rog- 6, Pavlograd- 2, Dniprodzerzhynsk-2, Brjag-2. The rest guys from rural areas is. Another make the fellow was from Lviv. "

The same made 25ya brigade civilians, feysbuknula.

On dead there is, and Bolotov nothing not knows about how, that they there is. Ukrainian army in impeccable field, stole over the wreckage, chassis, engines, BMD, gun, and corpses, and militias of Lugansk People's Republic as something they've missed us this moment. But however they accurately know, that before how to do this, fashizty were out shooting each in friend.

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've given entire branch discuss, about postanovochnykh footage and cooperation DNR and of Lugansk People's Republic with the authorities in Kyiv or with donkey the still.

Debate and like questioning not d. However I have there is request: With perspective postanovochnykh cadres interpret for me, dark, demise Russian journalists and shelling of Luhansk, then, when the entire cleanest pererylo bombs and its feet have women which (ukrosimi declared, that on glance round reacted), there where children died, cadres from of Odessa, cadres from Mariupol.

Only in more details with pictures, to me, dark, be universally understood, why and whom this need.

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Did you finish your reading entire branch discuss, about postanovochnykh personnel and cooperation DNR and of Lugansk People's Republic with the authorities in Kyiv or with donkey the still.

Debate and like questioning not d. However I have there is request: With perspective postanovochnykh cadres interpret for me, dark, demise Russian journalists and shelling of Luhansk, then, when the entire cleanest pererylo bombs and its feet have women which (ukrosimi declared, that on glance round reacted), there where children died, cadres from of Odessa, cadres from Mariupol.

Only in more details with pictures, to me, dark, be universally understood, why and whom this need.

The Luhansk theme http://911tm.9bb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=361

They not cooperate, they simply from one troupe in theater Carabas Barabas

This Kharkiv, Square Freedom

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1403381228/f3a748db/5495063.jpg

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Only in more details with pictures, to me, dark, be universally understood, why and whom this need.


Hmm, interesting deal. And if you you ask for punctually and with pictures, to tell and show, the last meets mraziynykh militants have the Devil, then numerous obtain exhaustive response to its request and + exile on video in gift? There is no, so not tickles. Here not studio answers on questions, here contrary.)

Sporit and like questioning not d. However I have there is request: With perspective postanovochnykh cadres interpret for me, dark, demise Russian journalists

They died.
We can spell out the phony aeaai?ya, which gave on "Russia-24" together with their certain doom, but. We cannot know, who for that and on fix. Assumptions can do every, but accurately know - there is no.
Yes. Their sometimes kill, unfortunately this is so.
The reason? Perhaps she in accuracy such a same, as have demise Gagarin or greater parts of party astronauts the US in 60s. Simply's a calculated, or already has learned, that they not will agree to deception and will many language to measure, here is and the shitbags who popped for prevention.

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