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ismale wrote:

Did you look Kungurova, he, wondered as were crafted pillar and with the help what. Type there is no such technologies. And now impossible repeat, there is no such technology.
It turns out all easier:
As undertook an "othentic"
The reference

Ah betcha. 1425get back a little more, than have Kadykchanskogo

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With steeply, realistically thank you for exile!
The entire story- myth. As accurately put it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIm1MXerEHI
Over us goes the Eraser, zachischaya past history

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ismale wrote:

How undertook an "othentic"
The reference

We argue that Cathedral Paris Dame built in XII century, but as he in the time seemed so? Who his saw? And who saw Great Chinese wall previously the mid-20th century? No one.

With those, that someone something saw or not deal not let us, and here is one (mere) question there is always, on which there is no clear answer (and, perhaps, not will never): And when precisely(if not then, when suggest / "say’s organs is us"), whomand for whatdone?

Last edited by Val (Apr 6 2015 09:21:53)

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Val wrote:

It by the, that not really jibe with on the torah (VD) - disappears (tsarina of Sheba of those seats, but not "people elected").

Bond undergoes a. If Germany and the disappears, then I not against.

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What about the the receipts Antiquities - a good business. Was as something transfer of - ``debriefing forgery of female mummy in Iran. The price - a million. Have proven - forgery. Costs - most expensive thin golden disc on personified by.

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Val wrote:

Since those, that someone something saw or not deal not let us, and here is one (mere) question there is always, on which there is no clear answer (and, perhaps, not will never): And when precisely (if not then, when suggest / "say’s organs is us"), whom and for what done?

What about the provides a clear answer, who prevents you very and deal.
For example Cathedral - assembly. What - buildings. In old kindergardens this in sight more, in new only stylization under this "assembly buildings." For what buildings - to to live (old). New (FAB) obviously for has technology odurachivaniya, obvorovyvaniya, sort of dependence population --called faith, Church.
On Chinese wall - here there is theme. The first function kitayki - the road in China, then - "protection borders podnebesnoy" from razbeganiya Chinese slaves from "happiness" to live in great empire.

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горожанин wrote:

get back a little more, than have Kadykchanskogo

Who that this (gives) kadykchanskiy?

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Flint wrote:

About provides a clear answer, who prevents you very and deal.

Why me deal? Here is there is object, ofitsial says: "Ancient object, built then something, been used so something. All beam of. "That the" say: "Nathin '! Nor what this not ancient object, he built recently, been used he not for moreover, history have come up with. Ifsyo. " So here is and "when precisely, who precisely and with what precisely goal"?

Flint wrote:

For example Cathedral - assembly

people, waged one cult. Why his build was "yesterday", if his "Iicaa" not built?

Flint wrote:

Skyfall Chinese wall - here there is theme.

Over a similar subject about Stounkhendzhe me use keyboard, so "on-muss to a minimum": And was whether "the road in China" until Wall? And why build wall within China (podnebesnoy), whom from whom separate? "Chinese by slaves" and "happiness great empire" are scattered on different hand Wall evenly (everywhere there is "by slaves" and "happiness").

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Val wrote:

Over a similar subject about Stounkhendzhe me use keyboard, so "on-muss to a minimum": And was whether "the road in China" until Wall? And why build wall within China (podnebesnoy), whom from whom separate? "Chinese by slaves" and "happiness great empire" are scattered on different hand Wall evenly (everywhere there is "by slaves" and "happiness").

Not twist my words. Ban was for continued of spin facts and podlozhnye evidence ostensibly levels attained before construction in the 1940 50’s Stonehenge.
Chinese the wall - such same modern replica, only later built. Its and now are building in entire drugs now)
Together with "'s ancient advanced post Buddhism in booming Middle Kingdom Datunom."

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1428325884/3579f68e/8339409_m.jpg

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1428325904/6667299a/8339411_m.jpg

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1428325985/eb186147/8339417_m.jpg

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Val wrote:

Since those, that someone something saw or not deal not let us, and here is one (mere) question there is always, on which there is no clear answer (and, perhaps, not is ever do that): And when precisely (if not then, when suggest / "they are told by’s organs is us"), whom and for what done?


When - specifically revealed in post "Temple of Jupiter, Baalbek" and "ellinisticheskie cities" Turkey - in mid-19 century, when "were open" and entered the "scientific turnover." Why - flamboyant humanity should to live with history; its and make, what here the arcane?

Юрий wrote:

who that this (gives) kadykchanskiy?

Novodely

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горожанин wrote:

Don’t twist my words. Ban was for continued of spin facts and podlozhnye evidence ostensibly levels attained before construction in the 1940 50’s Stonehenge.

Nu so existed same until 1940, and kunushku provided from 1916 (pro kinushku 1900-1901, which there is, not mention, camping on K. Not saw). Who laid the first stone and when? Than poorly zhilosya without Stounzhendzha? Dazzle oncoming Stonehenge not couple of days palette knife subtle, there people need, material, people to pay need (for work and for "silence"), for public-share, photographs and etchings on-nadelyvat, on-put a in old newspapers and the legend, not monetize no one, under this "construction" (i.e. restoration) goes with a large flock people - many neponyatnostey. And importantly - why? For couple of films about the Druids and couples mingling?
The wall. Lived they without Wall so much years, but here someone fewer its "devise", impacted information about it in all available sources of antiquity, myths-the legend, injected together cash (or were rounded up...... cheap communist labor force, but the COs would still need was to pay), 'd been coached material, configured no one not achieve escape on the very moment wall, jobs povalyali. Why?
The same treats all "land of make-believe" historical installations.
If something not existed "Iicaa", why his conjuring up, that it like would existed "Iicaa" and "yesterday" his to do? ("Iicaa" - antiquity, "yesterday" - 19-20 age).
And still - Nitty Gritty, charitably, little.

Last edited by Val (Apr 6 2015 17:09:36)

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Want itself turn on the spigots. Some "eyfelevyy."
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http://funkyimg.com/i/VFeP.jpg

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Val wrote:

Nu so existed same until 1940, and kunushku provided from 1916 (pro kinushku 1900-1901, which there is, not mention, camping on K. Not saw). Who laid the first stone and when? Than poorly zhilosya without Stounzhendzha? Dazzle oncoming Stonehenge not couple of days palette knife subtle, there people need, material, people to pay need (for work and for "silence"), for public-share, photographs and etchings on-nadelyvat, on-put a in old newspapers and the legend, not monetize no one, under this "construction" (i.e. restoration) goes with a large flock people - many neponyatnostey. And importantly - why? For couple of films about the Druids and couples mingling?
The wall. Lived they without Wall so much years, but here someone fewer its "devise", impacted information about it in all available sources of antiquity, myths-the legend, injected together cash (or were rounded up...... cheap communist labor force, but the COs would still need was to pay), 'd been coached material, configured no one not achieve escape on the very moment wall, jobs povalyali. Why?
The same treats all "land of make-believe" historical installations.
If something not existed "Iicaa", why his conjuring up, that it like would existed "Iicaa" and "yesterday" his to do? ("Iicaa" - antiquity, "yesterday" - 19-20 age).
And still - Nitty Gritty, charitably, little.

Edited Val (Today 17 :09: 36)

All "old" New print (philately) created, to create illusion, that history always commanded such, what these New print (philately) "show" and "'re displaying." Governance and permanent. Why us hinted on collapse 9 / 11 for long until this? Because this stay in by highly book-piece of software. So should be on their scenario, and human logic here little. Why? Likely, to hide traces war with humanity, about which not states in history. Just – my opinion.

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Val wrote:

people, waged one cult. Why his build was "yesterday", if his "Iicaa" not built?

For a similar subject about Stounkhendzhe me use keyboard, so "on-muss to a minimum": And was whether "the road in China" until Wall? And why build wall within China (podnebesnoy), whom from whom separate? "Chinese by slaves" and "happiness great empire" are scattered on different hand Wall evenly (everywhere there is "by slaves" and "happiness").

Here is here arrived "Cathedral" - heap buildings type "to worsen" from Left, and right already FAB, only defined rooftop.
St. Sophia Cathedral in Kyiv
Here Alani kingdom (Sobory -, too, absolutism are seen individual buildings, even windows laid walls each other.
of the Alans temples Karachaya: Ancient church on territory Russia
Here is has found
Architecture engineering Russias
Assumption Cathedral Vladimir - are visible individual buildings.
Cathedral Pokrova on people - visible copycat assembly these buildings.
If Internet he's fast too shared in aid "Ancient temples" ivsyo can be perfectly to consider.
First was trading the road in China. To was clear as such perhaps, imagine is being driven caravan-of salt with Baskunchaka. On BO of salt there is no. Essentially the who tried where sea salt first time there is batches of the drug. Rates on drugs, do you, know, income - say taskayte for a pinch of salt stones with Spring and until Korea. And if merchants brought alcohol, vital. Pro abstinentsiyu know and on that ready man in this able. Then when the natives), to have them not was desires escape on Don, in Zaporozhyeto the Hun is done primitive reboot the wall (moat led and currencies) with pivot basis points "the Cracow" rarely to garrisons will we find (now-called by border guards) - can be watch here. And because "the wall" passes on bewildering passes, then it seems used "silk path" on vodorazdelam, think time of the the road could be in the form of zasypannykh sites between peaks hills for alignment / convenience, and wall after create impersko-policeman state under skies rocky peninsulla from VShputi. Incidentally this explains prongs walls on inward side China.

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A new Chronology of pro New print (philately)

Last edited by Уроборос (Jul 13 2015 00:50:01)

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Any perform, already several centuries know secrets processing granite, but not say about offense people, bastards.
http://levhudoi.blogspot.ru/2015/07/blog-post.html
http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1436633407/f574b2d2/9259333.jpg

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http://bookz.ru/authors/gleb-nosovskii/ … o_690.html
Вкратце:Колизей новодел 19 века.

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https://coub.com/view/c9mqa
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походу все эти войны 18-19 века и нужны были чтоб многих этих строителей новодела перебить, да бы не разболтали чего, но это так один из факторов так сказать в придачу конечно к другим геополитическим расстановкам и задачам, там же ребятки на 10 шагов все продумывают, не без известное нам словечко "многоходовочка"

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#p40316,DLV wrote:

не совсем понятно,  для чего делать такие сложные развалины:
- они содержат элементы сложного орнамента
- они, хоть и развалины,  стоят многие годы, то есть, они построены с учетом серьезных  архитектурных законов и правил
- они разные,  в разных местах, и отличаются соответсвенно истории каждого места
- часто под одними развалинами находят другие, еще более поздние,  и еще более "засыпанные песком "
- они построены, как правило,  из местных материалов
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Но вот чтобы все, что откопали - подделка - нет , не верю. Ни с технической точки зрения непонятно , ни с точки зрения целесообразности,  ни, тем более, в связке первого со вторым.

Подпишусь под этим. Для "мистификации" - неоправданно сложно. И никак не прочитывается мотив такой мистификации.
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Далее.
Фото и видео доказали: да, в разрушенных ИГИЛом скульптурах есть арматура. Но что это доказывает? Лишь то, что музеи (в том числе под открытым небом) выдают новодел за подлинники.
Как кто-то здесь справедливо написал, реальные подлинники могут оказаться где угодно - скорее всего, в частных коллекциях.
Поэтому делать из этой арматуры вывод "вся древность поддельна" - по меньшей мере, наивно. По большей - это намеренный вброс.

Last edited by Алексей Кофанов (Mar 4 2017 16:57:58)

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#p104779,Алексей Кофанов wrote:
DLV wrote:

не совсем понятно,  для чего делать такие сложные развалины:
- они содержат элементы сложного орнамента
- они, хоть и развалины,  стоят многие годы, то есть, они построены с учетом серьезных  архитектурных законов и правил
- они разные,  в разных местах, и отличаются соответсвенно истории каждого места
- часто под одними развалинами находят другие, еще более поздние,  и еще более "засыпанные песком "
- они построены, как правило,  из местных материалов
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Но вот чтобы все, что откопали - подделка - нет , не верю. Ни с технической точки зрения непонятно , ни с точки зрения целесообразности,  ни, тем более, в связке первого со вторым.

Подпишусь под этим. Для "мистификации" - неоправданно сложно. И никак не прочитывается мотив такой мистификации.
____________
Далее.
Фото и видео доказали: да, в разрушенных ИГИЛом скульптурах есть арматура. Но что это доказывает? Лишь то, что музеи (в том числе под открытым небом) выдают новодел за подлинники.
Как кто-то здесь справедливо написал, реальные подлинники могут оказаться где угодно - скорее всего, в частных коллекциях.
Поэтому делать из этой арматуры вывод "вся древность поддельна" - по меньшей мере, наивно. По большей - это намеренный вброс.

Допустим, что все это новодел 19 века .....
Как объяснить что в " реальные постройки " 19 века - эстетически на несколько порядков ниже чем, фэйковые древности ?

Покажите мне хоть одно сооружение 18-19 веков могущее сравниться по гениальности с Афинским Акрополем .
Должны же были где-то еще себя проявить архитекторы этого гениального новодела .

И отсюда вытекает следующий вопрос : Ну скажем, да, это сделали в 19 веке какие-то гении .... для того, что бы такое сделать совершенно необходимо получить блестящее образование как архитектурное так и художественное ..... в каком месте и в какой стране в 18- 19 веках можно было получить такое образование ?

По постройкам 18-19 веков хорошо видно, что в известных нам странах архитекторов такого класса не было .

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